A brief excerpt from their conversation:
“Here we are in the 21st century, and perhaps the biggest proponent of verifiable facts and truth is the Christian church. But what’s happening in our culture… increasingly the culture doesn’t believe in facts or truth. It believes that people create their own truth, they create their own facts. There’s no certainty on what the right take on reality is. And so here we have the Christian church of all things being the center of emphasis on the idea that there are historical facts that can be verified… God worked it out so that we didn’t have to take the resurrection just on trust, but that he actually made it verifiable.”
